Matt's job was not always pleasant. Mathematically, everyone could not be number one in a search result. This led to some disappointed people. Because Matt was in the public eye of search, people often blamed him for the shoddy rating of shoddy websites. I was amazed that he was able to remain helpful, fair, honest, and upbeat even with disgruntled people.

Matt got started on home computers with an ancient Sinclair ZX80 kit. An included game was of the standard genre of completing an arduous task before the coins were used up. We looked at the line of code with the starting number of coins. I told him that we could change that to a bigger number of coins or even to a huge number. He was flabbergasted and hooked.

Later, Matt got a venerable Commodore 64 computer. Many hours were spent and eventually he worked up to such things as watching screens of hexadecimal zip by. One project was phoning in a pizza order using a speech chip hooked to the computer. When the pizza parlor answered the phone, it was immediately obvious that to get very far past "I would like to order a pizza," big time computing and AI were needed.